i know this question has been discussed, but i can't find the topic i was just looking at, so.... one thing about this is that the other posters here didn't mention, that i noticed anyway, that there was this member of the gb in the 40s and early 50s (but possibly during rutherford) who was at odds with rutherford or knorr, and they wanted to do away with them, so they accused (falsely) that person, then they declared that the punishment for that sin was something they invented, or at least once iteration of, what we know as the modern disfellowshipping practice among jws.. so, that is why they invented that doctrine; they.
"Shunning" began I believe in the early 1950s.
Why?
Thats an even tougher question. I think its just a measure to control people as the Borg seen fit. To reinvent itself as they want to. You know make it up as they went along.
Like when they doubled-down in '81 to include those who disassociated,,, to be shunned & treated as such.
while having my first strong black coffee of the day, i was thinking about what may be to come next as the org.
rapidly goes mainstream, and this is what i came up with :.
1) they will introduce for sunday, the after meeting fellowship, a time for just chatting but with the added bonus of coffee and snacks.
"Jeracz's legacy left a mess."
Did he ever.
Up there with Fred Franz.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
""I kept asking so Armageddon isnt coming in the next two or three years max?' ""
Ironically,,, this 1995 change rattled my cage enough and ruffled my feathers enough to crack my indoctrination in my inherited beliefs.
This led to about a decade worth of doubts from 1996 - 2006/07 & waking up fully in 2007.
Combined with the cliqueyness and lack of love in the congregations,,,fully awake in 2007 & since then.
Pandoras box,, its lid blown right off.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
""Fair point.
How many would truly want to stay if they didn’t have to, though? ""
Probably only the old school ones.. A mere handful.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
Unity. Unity. Unity,,unity,unity,unity is what you hear all the time.
No matter what this Borganization does,,,thats what its all about..
Actually its uniformity. Conformity. Is what its all about.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
"'Whoever came up with the overlapping generations is a world-class idiot".
Because its ""nonsensical."
"Nonsensical"
Shout out to Telltales' expression.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
1914 & talking about it less,,less,less & less,,,??
Yes. Bang on.
It can be forgotten about. The less its mentioned,, it can be forgotten.
The more something is mentioned ie) governing body,,organization,,slamming higher education obedience etc...just to name a few,, it has a reverse reaction. Its reinforced. Solidifying!!
Yes. Mind control.
it’s been a long time since i’ve kept up with anything jw-related.
but just a couple days ago, i heard about all the new changes—beards, shunning, etc.
i was surprised, so i asked an old friend who i hadn’t spoken to in ages what happened.
Not sure where to upload this. But here goes. Stacey discusses some of these things in detail,,here it is in case you haven't already seen it.
it’s been a long time since i’ve kept up with anything jw-related.
but just a couple days ago, i heard about all the new changes—beards, shunning, etc.
i was surprised, so i asked an old friend who i hadn’t spoken to in ages what happened.
AM3 knows where "the bodies are burried" so speak..
An interview with him,,,would be very interesting.
i think the gb needs to expand publishers' volunteer activities beyond door knocking.. gb has shifted away from door-knocking to more varied forms of witnessing and no longer counting time for publishers.
my prediction is that the gb will start encouraging jws to participate in broader community volunteer efforts: clean-up drives, food banks, senior citizen support, and other non-proselytizing activities.
this move could help them gain goodwill with government agencies and the public.. expanding volunteer activities could significantly shift how jws are perceived by the wider community.
They have to maintain this "us vs them" mentality.
Opening up food pantry's and soup kitchens defeats that theology.
I dont think that would ever work.
